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Should creationism be taught in schools?
Hosted by the Institute of Ideas and the Humanist Society Scotland at the National Library Scotland
11 February 2008
National Library Scotland, Edinburgh
Should schools teach creationism?
Speakers
Alex McLellan, Founder and Executive Director of Reason Why
Dave Perks, Head of Physics at Graveney School in London
Christopher Brookmyre, Novelist, including Boiling a Frog
Julian Baggini, writer and philosopher
Marc Surtees, Paradigm Shift
Chair - Tiffany Jenkins, Institute of Ideas
Get out of my head! Education, indoctrination and the battle over faith schools
Institute of Ideas with Bishopsgate Institute
Secularism 2008 Series
A series of three panel debates in early 2008 will interrogate the state of secularism today. Taking inspiration from Bishopsgate Institute’s renowned collection on free-thought and secularism, the debates aim to continue in the long tradition of critical inquiry of religion and of its opponents.
Thursday 7 February, 7pm - Get out of my head!
Thursday 6 March, 7pm - Still the opium of the masses?
Thursday 3 April - Flogging a dead horse?
Get out of my head! Education, indoctrination and the battle over faith schools
Thursday 7 February 2008, 7pm, Bishopsgate Institute, Liverpool Street
The government thinks faith schools are the way forward for education, and even non-religious parents often believe their children will benefit from a religious ‘ethos’. Rather than being Jesuit-like proselytising, this kind of religious education seems more akin to ‘value’-laden lessons about obesity or carbon footprints. Might both religious and atheist parents be better off for avoiding the government’s educational agenda? Does education have more to offer than instilling kids with values?
Speakers
Andrew Copson - director, education and public affairs, British Humanist Association
Dr Austen Ivereigh - Catholic journalist, commentator and campaigner
David Perks - head of physics, Graveney School; lead author, What Is Science Education For?
Chair - Claire Fox: director, Institute of Ideas
Full debate: Download mp3 (1:43:09 / 128kb)
Opening speeches:
Andrew Copson: Download mp3 (10:35 / 128kb)
Austen Ivereigh: Download mp3 (12:35 / 128kb)
David Perks: Download mp3 (10:53 / 128kb)

The debate over creationism has sprung up as the latest flashpoint in the battle between secularism and religion. While the US has seen extended conflict over the theory of evolution – from the 1925 ‘Scopes Monkey Trial’ to the recent Dover, PA court case – new challenges to Darwinism under the guise of intelligent design (ID) have arisen in the UK. Concerns centre on school science education, from Sir Peter Vardy’s Emmanuel Schools Foundation to the controversial teaching packs distributed by the anti-evolution group Truth in Science. The rise of ‘Islamic creationism’, modelling itself on ID, adds to concerns that Islam poses a special threat to secularism in Britain. Although the Royal Society and much of the scientific establishment have denounced the teaching of creationism, a recent MORI poll revealed that over 40% of the public believe that creationism or ID should be taught alongside evolution in school science classes.
While few seriously endorse the literal biblical story of creation, ID on the other hand claims to highlight Darwinism’s shortcomings on scientific grounds. Evolution is ‘just a theory’ after all - surely in the spirit of encouraging critical thinking we should ‘teach the controversy’? Science is about questioning received truths rather than establishing certainties for all time. Does this not permit a more flexible approach to science education, where debate is encouraged? Further, the sheer complexity of evolutionary theory leads ID advocates to claim it is best to cultivate a critical eye in pupils, rather than have them take as truth a misunderstood Darwinian theory.
Is science, or ‘scientism’, just as fundamentalist as religion, arrogantly claiming to know everything, or are doubts such as these a reflection of scientists’ failure to make the case properly for what science does have to offer? Is this merely another case of the ‘balance fallacy’ – the mistaken belief that even falsehoods should be given air time?
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Professor Steve Fuller professor of sociology, University of Warwick; author, Science vs Religion? Intelligent Design and the Problem of Evolution |
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Professor Simon Conway Morris professor of evolutionary palaeobiology, University of Cambridge; author, Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe |
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David Perks head of physics, Graveney School; lead author, What Is Science Education For? |
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Alex Hochuli web editor, Institute of Ideas; producer, Bishopsgate Institute secularism season |

With the politics of behaviour in the ascendancy, there is increasing interest in what science can tell us about why people behave the way they do. The British government is funding the creation of the National Academy for Parenting Practitioners, with the express aim of training a ‘parenting workforce’ to provide science-based child-rearing advice to parents. In the USA, the MRI scanner and the neuroscientific community are entering the court room to give evidence about whether defendants can be regarded as being responsible for their alleged crimes. UK policymakers cite scientific ‘evidence’ to explain new interventions on everything from early years’ education to the alleged impact of school dinners on academic performance. The science of nutrition now informs earnest discussions about how children’s diets improve their classroom behaviour, in order to justify policing lunchboxes and putting school meals at the top of the political agenda. Studies of teenage brain development now regularly inform social debates about the impact of new technologies on young people.
But how much can science tell us about behaviour? Do scientific findings justify the government’s many interventions into the early years of children’s lives? Should neuroscience enjoy an exalted place in the courtroom? Are policies being developed because of genuine advances in scientific knowledge – or is science being (mis)used, perhaps in the place of political conviction, to justify policies?
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Professor Jeffrey Rosen professor of law, George Washington University; legal affairs editor, The New Republic; author, The Unwanted Gaze |
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Professor Raymond Tallis professor of geriatric medicine, University of Manchester; poet; author, The Hand: A Philosophical Inquiry into Human Being |
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Professor Pierre Magistretti professor of neuroscience, University of Lausanne; vice-chairman, European Dana Alliance for the Brain; co-author, The Biology of Freedom |
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Professor Steve Yearley director, ESRC Genomics Policy and Research Forum |
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David Perks head of physics, Graveney School; lead author, What Is Science Education For? |

Particle physics is the quest to understand the most fundamental constituents of matter. But the deeper we probe into the secrets of subatomic particles, the bigger the machine required. The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the next generation of atom smasher. Having a circumference of 27km and sitting 100m beneath the Swiss/French border, the LHC is the largest machine ever made. When operating it is claimed it will be the coldest place in the universe, and create conditions not witnessed since just after the dawn of the universe. The construction of the LHC is a big step forward for science. Once the LHC switches on in 2008, it will make us think about the universe differently.
But is this the end for big physics? At a cost of some 2 billion euros, the LHC did not come cheap. Famously, in trying to explain the need to fund the LHC in the 1980s, scientists were reduced to appealing to Margaret Thatcher’s ego. But has the justification for pure scientific research run out of steam? Even scientists at CERN now take great pains to explain their work’s spin-offs for medical physics. At a time when science seems to be re-orientating itself around the battle to stop climate change, is there a place for particle physics? With the closure of so many university physics departments over recent years it would seem the writing is already on the wall. And yet the questions big physics addresses colour everyone’s view of the universe we live in. Our fascination with the seeming implausibility of the Big Bang and the quantum theory of matter mean bookshops continue to be filled with biographies of Einstein and lay guides to physics.
At a time when theoretical physics seems trapped in speculation about the validity or otherwise of string theory, the LHC experiment gives us the chance to rejuvenate our understanding of the universe from particle physics to cosmology. Will this finally convince the world that particle physics is sexy?
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Joe Kaplinsky science writer and researcher |
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Dr Brian Cox Royal Society research fellow, University of Manchester; television and radio presenter, writer and broadcaster; particle physicist working at CERN, in charge of project to upgrade the ATLAS and CMS detectors at the LHC |
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David Perks head of physics, Graveney School; lead author, What Is Science Education For? |
Tomorrow's innovators - will today's science education create the Brunels and Einsteins of tomorrow?
In association with Pfizer and produced by Tony Gilland at the Royal College of Art, Lecture Theatre 1, 15.30 - 17.00 on Saturday 28 October 2006
Students at university and secondary school are abandoning pure science. While total A-level entries rose between 1991 and 2003, chemistry, mathematics and physics all dropped significantly. Applications for degree courses in science, maths and engineering have fallen by a third in recent years.
Few deny that the situation is a serious cause for concern, but there is little clarity about the underlying problems or what the solutions might be. The government has emphasised the importance of students having the opportunity to study three separate sciences – physics, chemistry and biology – at GCSE to provide them with a better grounding for A level study and beyond. But with a desperate shortage of physics and chemistry teachers is this wishful thinking?
At the same time, from September 2006 all students are required to study a new science GCSE that aims to assist school students to become scientifically literate citizens. A key argument underpinning this new GCSE is that for too long science education has focused on training the minority of students who will go on to be the scientists of tomorrow when in fact greater emphasis needs to be given to preparing all young people to make informed choices about issues such as global climate change, healthy lifestyles or the risks and benefits of the MMR vaccination.
What are the prospects for this new approach to both educate and inspire the Brunels and Einsteins of tomorrow and arm future citizens to engage in constructive debates and decisions about the risks and benefits of new innovations? Amidst all this change is there a danger that we are losing faith in science as an academic discipline worthy of study and failing to push the next generation to engage with it in a serious way?
Dr Eliot Forster, vice-president of development, Pfizer
Dr Brian Iddon, MP, Bolton, South East; member, House of Commons Science and Technology Select Committee
David Perks, head of physics, Graveney School; writer, Times Educational Supplement, The Times and spiked
Michael Reiss, professor of science education, Institute of Education; director of education, Royal Society
Chair: Tony Gilland, science and society director, Institute of Ideas; national co-ordinator, Debating Matters
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The battle for science education 8 November 2006
The advocates of the new thinking in science education put great sore by their emphasis on science education for the citizen, otherwise known as 'scientific literacy'. But will turning off the Bunsen Burners and forcing students to focus on scientific issues and controversies encourage budding scientists, or put them off even more? In his provocative essay ''What Is Science Education For'' David Perks, head of physics at a London state secondary school, argues that attempts to make school science more popular by making it more 'relevant' are giving today's students a watered-down science education that will not produce the scientists we need.
Contributors to the book include Robert Sykes, rector of Imperial College London University and Baroness Warnock, chair of the committee on Human Embryology and Fertilisation together with Michael Reiss, Professor of Science Education at the Institute of Education and Andrew Hunt, Director of the Nuffield Curriculum Centre.
Questions to consider:
Are kids really turned off by academic science?
Does making science education relevant make sense educationally?
What is the reason students seem to be abandoning science at A level and beyond?
What are the implications for clinicians and healthcare?
Readings:
“What is science education for?”, Institute of Ideas, October 2006
“Brave New World”, Helen O’Brien, The Guardian, 5/9/2006
“Anti-science lessons”, Sandy Starr, spiked, 30/9/2005
“Teach science for science's sake”, David Perks, 15/8/2006, spiked
"Dark forces in the lab", David Perks, 6 January 2006, TES
Contact the Institute of Ideas for further details.
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